NO_HEART_XIII 312 Posted February 2, 2014 (edited) It's stated that in order to move through time, there must be a version of yourself waiting at the destination. By that logic, how is Young Xehanort able to be in the present? Master Xehanort had not been resurrected yet, so there was not a version of himself waiting in the present. All the members were there before Master Xehanort was recomplete. After Xemnas was defeated, all traces of Xehanort were destroyed, so how could Young Xehanort travel to the present? That's my question. Is Nomura already breaking his own rule or is there an explanation that I'm not seeing? Edited February 2, 2014 by NO_HEART_XIII 2 The Transcendent Key and Ruby Rose reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Demyx. 10,064 Posted February 2, 2014 (edited) Isa and Braig/Xigbar are most likely from the current timeline. and if for some odd reason they are from a different timeline. There are plenty of other vessels that could be from that timeline. Edited February 2, 2014 by Squirting Demyx 2 Robbie the Wise and PillowHead reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MasterXemnas 2,285 Posted February 2, 2014 Fool. Those rules were made specifically to fit the situation. I'm sure it makes sense. 1 Light Guardian reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zola 3,038 Posted February 2, 2014 After a whole lot of this I kinda gave up on trying to make sense of the time travel thing. 3 Dave, Oli and Setrex reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ruby Rose 8,591 Posted February 2, 2014 First law of time travel: don't do it 3 Kello, King Demise and Oli reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nick Sideris 1,551 Posted February 2, 2014 I haven't really understood the whole time travel thing . But I can tell ya that much : I think that after the defeat of Xemnas , Xehanort was immediately ressurected . So I guess Young Xehanort was able to travel in time . But I must be wrong because with that logic , how did Young Xehanort travel in the Land Of Departure ? I am confused . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ceriraye 485 Posted February 2, 2014 How do you time travel in the first place? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Movies798 1,361 Posted February 2, 2014 Are you talking about the present in Dream Drop Distance? Because if you are then Master Xehanort was resurrected shortly after Xemnas death because both his heart and body had return to each other. Remember there are thirteen Xehanorts, Master Xehanort himself, Young Xehanort, Ansem SoD, Xemnas, Isa, Braig, and seven other Xehanorts we don't know about. So Young Xehanort could have use the other unknown seven Xehanorts to get to the present. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robbie the Wise 5,050 Posted February 2, 2014 Isa and Braig/Xigbar are most likely from the current timeline. and if for some odd reason they are from a different timeline. There are plenty of other vessels that could be from that timeline.This in fact if you stop and think about it there is a scene that confirms it. In every scene with Ansem and Xemnas we see Young Xehanort present first acting as the anchor that ties them to the present. In Sora's final scenes Xigbar appears first followed closely by Xemnas in that same manner. 1 Demyx. reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
G-SANtos 105 Posted February 2, 2014 (edited) It's stated that in order to move through time, there must be a version of yourself waiting at the destination. By that logic, how is Young Xehanort able to be in the present? Master Xehanort had not been resurrected yet, so there was not a version of himself waiting in the present. All the members were there before Master Xehanort was recomplete. After Xemnas was defeated, all traces of Xehanort were destroyed, so how could Young Xehanort travel to the present? That's my question. Is Nomura already breaking his own rule or is there an explanation that I'm not seeing? If I remember correctl,y Ansem was in the Destiny Island when it was first destroyed, after the battle against Ursula, therefore, Young Xehanort could travel to that point and enter the Realm of Sleep from there. Wasn't this how he entered the Realm of Sleep? I haven't really understood the whole time travel thing . But I can tell ya that much : I think that after the defeat of Xemnas , Xehanort was immediately ressurected . So I guess Young Xehanort was able to travel in time . But I must be wrong because with that logic , how did Young Xehanort travel in the Land Of Departure ? I am confused . Simple: He got there when Xehanort was there to kill Eraqus, and stayed until a bit after the Land of Departure was emerged in darkness. This would technically mean that only Terra's version of the battle is canon. However, this brings another question: Why was he there in the first place? This in fact if you stop and think about it there is a scene that confirms it. In every scene with Ansem and Xemnas we see Young Xehanort present first acting as the anchor that ties them to the present. In Sora's final scenes Xigbar appears first followed closely by Xemnas in that same manner. For The Grid and La Cité des Cloches yes. However, Nomura confirmed that Ansem and Xemnas weren't time travelling in The World that Never Was: — In other words, Ansem and Xemnas were, at the same time, existing in the time and space of KH3D as well as having returned to their true human form after being destroyed? Nomura: Yes, it does turn out that way. However, as I said before, "The World That Never Was", where the thirteen all met, is a special space. The mechanics behind how they were all able to exist at the same time is a mystery. From KH1 on, Ansem has returned no matter how many times he has been defeated, perhaps the same sort of thing happened. Edited February 2, 2014 by G-SANtos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hero of Winds 2,576 Posted February 2, 2014 It's stated that in order to move through time, there must be a version of yourself waiting at the destination. By that logic, how is Young Xehanort able to be in the present? Master Xehanort had not been resurrected yet, so there was not a version of himself waiting in the present. All the members were there before Master Xehanort was recomplete. After Xemnas was defeated, all traces of Xehanort were destroyed, so how could Young Xehanort travel to the present? That's my question. Is Nomura already breaking his own rule or is there an explanation that I'm not seeing? Braig did mention that he was half of Xehanort. But as G-Santos has stated, YX was able to make his way into the plot from when Sora and Riku entered the Realm of Sleep. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave 5,715 Posted February 2, 2014 There are no laws, or rules. Things will change on a whim the moment it becomes convenient for Nomura to do so. I wouldn't put any extra worry into it. 1 PillowHead reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robbie the Wise 5,050 Posted February 2, 2014 If I remember correctl,y Ansem was in the Destiny Island when it was first destroyed, after the battle against Ursula, therefore, Young Xehanort could travel to that point and enter the Realm of Sleep from there. Wasn't this how he entered the Realm of Sleep? Simple: He got there when Xehanort was there to kill Eraqus, and stayed until a bit after the Land of Departure was emerged in darkness. This would technically mean that only Terra's version of the battle is canon.However, this brings another question: Why was he there in the first place? For The Grid and La Cité des Cloches yes. However, Nomura confirmed that Ansem and Xemnas weren't time travelling in The World that Never Was: — In other words, Ansem and Xemnas were, at the same time, existing in the time and space of KH3D as well as having returned to their true human form after being destroyed?Nomura: Yes, it does turn out that way. However, as I said before, "The World That Never Was", where the thirteen all met, is a special space. The mechanics behind how they were all able to exist at the same time is a mystery. From KH1 on, Ansem has returned no matter how many times he has been defeated, perhaps the same sort of thing happened.What are you talking about that interview is discussing how TWTNW was able to house all the Norts at the same time despite that fact that some of them were not able to exist simultaneously even with time travel. He specifically credits TWTNW as the reason they could be in the same place despite the circumstances. No where does it confirm that time travel wasn't used. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nick Sideris 1,551 Posted February 3, 2014 Simple: He got there when Xehanort was there to kill Eraqus, and stayed until a bit after the Land of Departure was emerged in darkness. This would technically mean that only Terra's version of the battle is canon. However, this brings another question: Why was he there in the first place? Maybe to "test" Terra or something ? Like Xemnas did in Kingdom Hearts I ..? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites