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Perhaps the most corageous thing I have ever done

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That was a fantastic read. I personally don't care when people use faggot as a insult because I really could care less. Being bisexual myself, I use the term to degrade people even though it's supposed to 'offend' me. I really wouldn't of been able to do what you did because I really can't speak infront of a large audience. I really wouldn't of been interested in doing that anyway because of the person I am as well. Congratulations, man.

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Kinode ,That was awesome . It only takes one person to make a difference , especially against the majority .Most are afraid to be that one so i give you props and I wish you the best on your lifes journey .Be proud of who you are bc there is only one YOU .

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That was a fantastic read. I personally don't care when people use faggot as a insult because I really could care less. Being bisexual myself, I use the term to degrade people even though it's supposed to 'offend' me. I really wouldn't of been able to do what you did because I really can't speak infront of a large audience. I really wouldn't of been interested in doing that anyway because of the person I am as well. Congratulations, man.

 

I find it really offensive when someone uses it, because it portrays homosexuality as a negative thing. I've been too scared to speak out before, and normally portrayed homosexuality as a bad thing a lot, too(In order to defend my image). I was pretty hypocritical, but it's almost needed.

It was something spontaneous and the first time I've ever done something like this, I made many other people aware of this subject, and it was also a big step on setting up the right mood for me to comfortably come out.

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I find it really offensive when someone uses it, because it portrays homosexuality as a negative thing. I've been too scared to speak out before, and normally portrayed homosexuality as a bad thing a lot, too(In order to defend my image). I was pretty hypocritical, but it's almost needed.

It was something spontaneous and the first time I've ever done something like this, I made many other people aware of this subject, and it was also a big step on setting up the right mood for me to comfortably come out.

 

I get where you're coming from. I'm just not the person for caring about topics unless it seriously would devastate something.

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You are my new role model. That was amazing. You stood up for what you believed in, and you did so even in the risk of embarrassing yourself. You are an awesome person. I hold high respect for anyone who stands up for what they believe in, and will not back down. Power to you, good sir.

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dude, that was a fantastic story. I don't think you a coward at all for standing up for what you believe in and stuff like that is what gives me a little faith in the human race again lol. But regardless, it shouldn't be offensive, just as the n-word shouldn't be (if black people still get offended, i don't its just a word). I have some gay, bi, and some transgender friends but i treat them as a person. People can go ahead an argue saying that it's unethical or so, but treating gays differently is no better then when colored people were persecuted back in the day. I commend you good sir.

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Kinode you just became my new personal hero :)

 

I tried to smile but then I looked at your Avvy and burst out laughing xD

Thanks everyone, I'm really proud of myself, and I actually hope you guys stand up for what you believe in, because it's the small actions that make up the big changes! :)

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I think that is the most courageous thing I've ever heard an ordinary kid do. Actually, you're not ordinary, you are better, you're YOU! And you stand up for what you believe in. I give you my complete and utter respect, as I could never have the courage to do what you have done. But maybe now I do. You have inspired me, and I hope other people are inspired too. You rock!

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I didn't want to post this as a Thread before, but I feel that is was a great achievement of mine and it was something really important for me to do.

It was probably my most heroic action so far and hopefully it helped many people in my class besides me.

We were on the first period, it was Religious Studies.

I was thinking a lot since yesterday about defending gay rights in public. So there were some guys saying some shit about me, and one of them called the other "Haha, faggot. FAGGOT!"

I asked him 'Can I ask you an honest question? Were you offended when he called you a faggot?'

'No.'

'What about you, Tomás, did you mean to use it as an offense?'

"Yeah, kind of"

"Why is faggot an offense?" I lost a lot of memory from the moment since i have a bit of memory loss but I'll type what I remember.

Not much time passed when another guy, called Renan, used the word again: faggot.

"Did you hear what I just said? Is that even an offense?"

"Of course it is!"

"Tell me, why?"

He just laughed. Most of the class was quiet, staring at the argument.

"Tell me! Why?"

The teacher said "Argue, Renan."

"Shut up, Dias" said Daniel, another asshole from my class.

"N. You ARE going to answer me."

I looked around the class.

"ANYONE here have ANY reason for why being gay is bad!? Why being called that is offensive!?"

Augusto raised his hand "Because men need to be men and women need to be women!"

"But why? A gay man is still a man!"

Everyone laughed in confusion. Bunch of ignorant idiots.

"Why don't you go on the front of the class and tell us what you think, Dias?"

"I think I will."

I got up and stood in front of the whole class.

"Being gay isn't bad at all. It's not wrong, and it's not like anyone had a choice! No one wakes up and goes "Now I want to like this" Or "Now I want to like that". It is something you're born with!

I'm not sure what else I said after this part. August was giggling.

"...And if you think what I'm saying is funny, go fuck yourself!"

Everyone instantly shut up.

"I..."

I don't remember much after this, but my teacher grabbed me by the shoulder and dragged me a bit to the left. He supported me, but I can't remember what he said. I just remember he told me "But you wanted to say something, still. What is it?"

I thought this was the perfect moment to come out. But I couldn't, not yet. I just said something like "It just bothers me to see people use this an an offense. What is the choice of people like this? You're the wrong ones! Just like prejudice against black people, or Jews, or anyone is wrong, intolerance against homosexuality is horrible! THAT'S what's wrong!"

The teacher congratulated me and thanked me for being this courageous, standing up to my class, like this. He said that there was no denying that people like this exist for a reason, since the beginning of the human race, and that it was with small yet brave actions like this one that I would play my part in society, and help to change, even if just a bit.

He told me to sit down, and said one more thing before starting his class. "And remember, never throw rocks at glass. Because a shattered glass, can never be mended."

I was shaking. What were people thinking of me? Was I a joke? I payed attention to the class, and as soon as it was over, Tomás came to my table and apologized. He said he didn't mean anything he said, and that he was stupid... I told him "I know it was just a joke, but..."

"But it offended you. I'm really sorry. If you need anything, I'm here for you."

He's normally a jerk to me, so it was very surprising to hear him say something like that.

 

I went to the bathroom to wash my face, since I was really nervous, even though I wasn't crying. I just wanted to breath in and out. I could hear voices from some people from my class, and I just opened the bathroom door. Surprisingly, the sound got lower. I closed the door and there it was again.

"...And then he was like "Go fuck yourself!"

It was coming from the girls' bathroom. Were the girls gossiping about me?

I went back to the class. There were some of the popular guys. I avoided eye contact and walked in the class.

"There he is!" Some girls shouted. I thought for sure, this is it, bracing myself, but they just said stuff like "That was amazing! You're so great!"

There was a girl with teary eyes, and she's tough as stone, she told me she got really emotional when I was out there. Another one said I was her idol, he hero!

Many people came to pat me on my back, but I was really bothered that Rodrigo, someone who used to be a huge friend of mine, didn't even dare to look me in the eye.

Either way, the same douches from the first class still were like "No fucking way we're apologizing, right bro?" and asked me "Why do you defend them so much?"

"Because they're human beings, and have their rights."

"Okay, but why get out of your way to do it?"

"...And why not, Renan? Why don't you go up there and give us your arguments?"

"Hum... because..."

"It's because you don't even know why you're being an idiot. You don't have any arguments in your favor."

"Dude, if I'm homophobic, don't you have to respect that too?"

"No, because even though I just gave you about 20 reasons on why not to be, you're still being a dick. Why disrespect another person on these circumstances?"

 

In the end, I do feel like I went out winning. I know most people from the class congratulated me, and i know that Eduardo(My Religious Studies teacher) Is a big gossiper since my math teacher knew about it right away.

I actually met him later, and he said "I couldn't get that scene out of my head, and... do you allow me to ask you one thing?"

I already knew what, and I felt like i could trust him. "...Sure..."

"Are you?"

He said there definitely were some hints, but he didn't really form the puzzle, and that he didn't want to say anything that would make things awkward for me, so he let me speak.

He told me it was great and that I should feel indignant and protect myself, but to be careful to not to anything that could end up hurting me in the end.

My math teacher also asked me and I ended up telling her and explaining. That probably explained some stuff i did during her classes... She said it was all about accepting myself, and that other people were just too childish and immature to get it.

 

One word that definitely defines me... Brave, even though I AM a coward.

I'm proud of myself, and I think I gave inspiration and hope to many people from my class. I really hope what I did yesterday DID matter to more people than one.

 

Good work, another step to telling people how wrong racism really is :].

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Kinode, you are the MOST heroic and inspirational person I have met in my entire life! What you did was the most courageous and most inspiring thing you did! Why call yourself a coward? I saw nothing of that while reading what you did. You've just became my new hero and many others in your class and on this site :')

 

I tip my hat to you dear :)

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I've discovered something today.

Just like there were assholes who stayed assholes after my speech, some people just can't have their minds brought to their senses.

So it's no point trying to explain something seemingly obvious for us when the one being convinced doesn't want to be convinced. No matter how right I am, or how right you are, it takes the person him/herself to change, we can't do it for them.

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I've discovered something today.

Just like there were assholes who stayed assholes after my speech, some people just can't have their minds brought to their senses.

So it's no point trying to explain something seemingly obvious for us when the one being convinced doesn't want to be convinced. No matter how right I am, or how right you are, it takes the person him/herself to change, we can't do it for them.

 

Dammit quota too

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I didn't want to post this as a Thread before, but I feel that is was a great achievement of mine and it was something really important for me to do.

It was probably my most heroic action so far and hopefully it helped many people in my class besides me.

We were on the first period, it was Religious Studies.

I was thinking a lot since yesterday about defending gay rights in public. So there were some guys saying some shit about me, and one of them called the other "Haha, faggot. FAGGOT!"

I asked him 'Can I ask you an honest question? Were you offended when he called you a faggot?'

'No.'

'What about you, Tomás, did you mean to use it as an offense?'

"Yeah, kind of"

"Why is faggot an offense?" I lost a lot of memory from the moment since i have a bit of memory loss but I'll type what I remember.

Not much time passed when another guy, called Renan, used the word again: faggot.

"Did you hear what I just said? Is that even an offense?"

"Of course it is!"

"Tell me, why?"

He just laughed. Most of the class was quiet, staring at the argument.

"Tell me! Why?"

The teacher said "Argue, Renan."

"Shut up, Dias" said Daniel, another asshole from my class.

"N. You ARE going to answer me."

I looked around the class.

"ANYONE here have ANY reason for why being gay is bad!? Why being called that is offensive!?"

Augusto raised his hand "Because men need to be men and women need to be women!"

"But why? A gay man is still a man!"

Everyone laughed in confusion. Bunch of ignorant idiots.

"Why don't you go on the front of the class and tell us what you think, Dias?"

"I think I will."

I got up and stood in front of the whole class.

"Being gay isn't bad at all. It's not wrong, and it's not like anyone had a choice! No one wakes up and goes "Now I want to like this" Or "Now I want to like that". It is something you're born with!

I'm not sure what else I said after this part. August was giggling.

"...And if you think what I'm saying is funny, go fuck yourself!"

Everyone instantly shut up.

"I..."

I don't remember much after this, but my teacher grabbed me by the shoulder and dragged me a bit to the left. He supported me, but I can't remember what he said. I just remember he told me "But you wanted to say something, still. What is it?"

I thought this was the perfect moment to come out. But I couldn't, not yet. I just said something like "It just bothers me to see people use this an an offense. What is the choice of people like this? You're the wrong ones! Just like prejudice against black people, or Jews, or anyone is wrong, intolerance against homosexuality is horrible! THAT'S what's wrong!"

The teacher congratulated me and thanked me for being this courageous, standing up to my class, like this. He said that there was no denying that people like this exist for a reason, since the beginning of the human race, and that it was with small yet brave actions like this one that I would play my part in society, and help to change, even if just a bit.

He told me to sit down, and said one more thing before starting his class. "And remember, never throw rocks at glass. Because a shattered glass, can never be mended."

I was shaking. What were people thinking of me? Was I a joke? I payed attention to the class, and as soon as it was over, Tomás came to my table and apologized. He said he didn't mean anything he said, and that he was stupid... I told him "I know it was just a joke, but..."

"But it offended you. I'm really sorry. If you need anything, I'm here for you."

He's normally a jerk to me, so it was very surprising to hear him say something like that.

 

I went to the bathroom to wash my face, since I was really nervous, even though I wasn't crying. I just wanted to breath in and out. I could hear voices from some people from my class, and I just opened the bathroom door. Surprisingly, the sound got lower. I closed the door and there it was again.

"...And then he was like "Go fuck yourself!"

It was coming from the girls' bathroom. Were the girls gossiping about me?

I went back to the class. There were some of the popular guys. I avoided eye contact and walked in the class.

"There he is!" Some girls shouted. I thought for sure, this is it, bracing myself, but they just said stuff like "That was amazing! You're so great!"

There was a girl with teary eyes, and she's tough as stone, she told me she got really emotional when I was out there. Another one said I was her idol, he hero!

Many people came to pat me on my back, but I was really bothered that Rodrigo, someone who used to be a huge friend of mine, didn't even dare to look me in the eye.

Either way, the same douches from the first class still were like "No fucking way we're apologizing, right bro?" and asked me "Why do you defend them so much?"

"Because they're human beings, and have their rights."

"Okay, but why get out of your way to do it?"

"...And why not, Renan? Why don't you go up there and give us your arguments?"

"Hum... because..."

"It's because you don't even know why you're being an idiot. You don't have any arguments in your favor."

"Dude, if I'm homophobic, don't you have to respect that too?"

"No, because even though I just gave you about 20 reasons on why not to be, you're still being a dick. Why disrespect another person on these circumstances?"

 

In the end, I do feel like I went out winning. I know most people from the class congratulated me, and i know that Eduardo(My Religious Studies teacher) Is a big gossiper since my math teacher knew about it right away.

I actually met him later, and he said "I couldn't get that scene out of my head, and... do you allow me to ask you one thing?"

I already knew what, and I felt like i could trust him. "...Sure..."

"Are you?"

He said there definitely were some hints, but he didn't really form the puzzle, and that he didn't want to say anything that would make things awkward for me, so he let me speak.

He told me it was great and that I should feel indignant and protect myself, but to be careful to not to anything that could end up hurting me in the end.

My math teacher also asked me and I ended up telling her and explaining. That probably explained some stuff i did during her classes... She said it was all about accepting myself, and that other people were just too childish and immature to get it.

 

One word that definitely defines me... Brave, even though I AM a coward.

I'm proud of myself, and I think I gave inspiration and hope to many people from my class. I really hope what I did yesterday DID matter to more people than one.

 

You are one of the best people ever. seriously i don't know any one who would do that, and you did!

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Through your speech, I stood up from my chair and begun to clap loudly; yelling: "Go f*ck yourselfs, homophobics. SUPPORT THIS GUY, BECAUSE HE JUST BEAT THE SH*T OUT OF YOU ONLY USING HIS VOCABULARY AND REASONS!! NO ONE OF YOU AS BALL LIKE HIS! MAKE WAY FOR THE HERO!"

 

Then, I realised I wasn't actually there... :(

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Kinode, that right there took more courage than I have ever shown in my life. Heck, possibly more than all the times I've shown bravery put together. The only thing I can really think to say is this:

Bravo Kinode, bravo.

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First of all, what Kinode did was an incredibly courageous and inspiring thing to do.

Second of all, if anyone posts an uncalled comment that is rude, disrespectful or homophobic towards Kinode or anyone else of any sexuality, it will be removed.

Thirdly, let's not destroy this thread because this is a seriously great thread and I'm glad Kinode decided to post it.

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First of all, what Kinode did was an incredibly courageous and inspiring thing to do.

Second of all, if anyone posts an uncalled comment that is rude, disrespectful or homophobic towards Kinode or anyone else of any sexuality, it will be removed.

Thirdly, let's not destroy this thread because this is a seriously great thread and I'm glad Kinode decided to post it.

 

well that was a serious clean-up http://kh13.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.png

Also I hate the quota ;-;

Also I love every post that wasn't deleted

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There is always jerks wherever you go, but I don't know if it's our genes or our society (as foreigners say) that is very friendly and respectful towards all; but, we don't have much homophobics here. My country is like: "Their choices, their lives. Stay the f*ck out of business, if you can't even handle yours"

 

It's been 2 years since gay marriage was approved here. Lots of people, came to the streets with 'gay flags' cheering and partying. Even foreigners came (and still come) to my country only to "tight the ties". They looked very happy. Some like Straight marriage, some even more.

 

I think, after 'we' approved of homossexual marriage, other Europe countries were constrained about this.

 

We should just had respond: "Everyone has the right to be happy."

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