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KH3D Remake in 2015; KH3 in 2016 (Teaser at TGS?)

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This is only possible if Nomura wants to hold onto the one game a year motto he's been on.

 

The 13th anniversary of KH is a once in a lifetime occassion and of course it's a big deal pertaining to the series. Now KH3 clearly isn't going to arrive next year, and with Osaka seemingly ready to full throttle hardcore develop this game. However I do think they've been working on DDD HD in secret and that's partially another reason KH3 is still in early gameplay development (no doubt the story concepts and worlds are all sorted out and ready and putting the actual game together is all that's left) I personally think at TGS we will have another small KH3 teaser (this year is all teasers, next year we will see actual trailers and legit gameplay) and DDD HD will be announced. Whether as a Wii U, PS3 or even Vita title (or somehow all, not likely at all though. Would LOVE a crossplay for PS3 and Vita though!) KHDDD remake would be perfect for the 13th anniversary as it's the next best option to KH3 and we all know how story heavy Organization XIII is to the game.

 

Just my thoughts!

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  • Remaking KH3D would take more a year, and it would be a complete waste of resources.   They would remaster it and even then, why PS3? Hate to break it to you, but 3DS will be around after the PS3 fi

  • They won't do a remake. They would do a remaster. No one remakes 3DS games because it would be completely stupid.

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No, no,no..... Yasue said that a there are no intentions at the moment to make a KH3D HD because it is fairly new.It is only 2 years old.

When it will get a remake/remaster it will be 3years old.

A remake for CoM did take 3years the same as Coded.

 

Now a remake make took a bit longer but you never know. They may be even halfway done by now.

Edited by KH4Real

Oh for f... COME ON, KH3 isn't going to be released anywhere until at LEAST 2017. They are looking for new people to work on KH3, which clearly shows they have JUST started development on it. Remastering KH 3D isn't going to completely halt KH3's development:

 

- It's just ONE game.

- It doesn't necessarily need to be done by the Osaka team.

- Only The graphics and controls need to be updated.

 

I'm no expert on developing games but remastering a single game should be completed quicker than the previous ReMix's. Seeing people say 'We just want KH3' reminds me of practically every other time a game that isn't KH3 was announced (BBS, 358/2 Days, Re:Coded and KH3D). There are new fans of the Kingdom Hearts Series who are going to be confused if they jump from KH 2.5 to KH3 if they never play KH3D, which could happen as those same new fans aren't going to fork out money for a new handheld to play one game. Sorry if this sounds like a rant, i just needed to get this off my shoulders.

Edited by Rahin The Gamer

I'd be against a remastered version because it'd just hinder the development of FF15 and KH3. 

Or maybe they're just trying to contain the element of surprise until the opportune moment arrives.

 

Peace!

Oh for f... COME ON, KH3 isn't going to be released anywhere until at LEAST 2017. They are looking for new people to work on KH3, which clearly shows they have JUST started development on it. Remastering KH 3D isn't going to completely halt KH3's development:

 

- It's just ONE game.

- It doesn't necessarily need to be done by the Osaka team.

- Only The graphics and controls need to be updated.

 

I'm no expert on developing games but remastering a single game should be completed quicker than the previous ReMix's. Seeing people say 'We just want KH3' reminds me of practically every other time a game that isn't KH3 was announced (BBS, 358/2 Days, Re:Coded and KH3D). There are new fans of the Kingdom Hearts Series who are going to be confused if they jump from KH 2.5 to KH3 if they never play KH3D, which could happen as those same new fans aren't going to fork out money for a new handheld to play one game. Sorry if this sounds like a rant, i just needed to get this off my shoulders.

 

The first trailer we saw for KHIII was for the E3,June 2013. In 4 month , we will be in 2015. And you REALLY think they have just started the development ? So they have absolutely done  nothing in more than a year ? I'm bored of hearing people saying that after more than a year, the development just started like a week ago.

 

And the fact is that it would be pretty difficult to adapt the controls because of the many features the touch pad can bring. That's why we will probably never have 358/2 days , Re Coded and KH3D. And that's why we have Theaters Modes for those. And simple logic, if they have to make a 10 people team for working on KH3D , that's 10 people who aren't working on KHIII.

I'd be against a remastered version because it'd just hinder the development of FF15 and KH3.

Not FF15, since nobody who worked on KH2/FF15 would work on a remaster of a game they didn't make.

I would like both KH3D:HD AND KH3, but would give up KH3D if it meant getting KH3 sooner. No one here really needs a remastered version of KH3D, but what about the new fans?One reason for the HD collections is to gain new fans and have all the game on one system. If someone buys and plays 1.5 and 2.5 on their PS3, is Square Enix honestly expecting that person to buy both a 3DS and KH3D, in order to prepare for a PS4/XBone game? That doesn't make too much sense.The collections are also suppose to build up hype for everyone, but wouldn't the hype die out if they took 2015 off? I'm not saying Nomura should give us a KH game for 2015 based on a promise he didn't make, but he can't just let KH be out of the spotlight for 1-2 years. Otherwise, they should have just held off on the HD collections until it was close the release of KH3.

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Foiled again by that menancing Nomura and his dumb dog! 

I really want all the focus to go to Kingdom Hearts 3.

Square enix have said they want to release a kingdom hearts game every year so

 

2013: Kh 1.5

2014: Kh 2.5

2015: DDD Hd

2016: 1.5 for xb1/ps4

2017: 2.5 for xb1/ps4

2018: DDD hd for xb1/ps4

2019: ultimate collection

2020: 1.5 hd for xb2/ps5

ちょっと失礼。

 

Just stop it.

 

No.

I believe Yasue (or Nomura, whomever it may be) just said there are no plans for a KH3D HD remake. Their focus now is solely on Kingdom Hearts 3.

I also want to point out the secret message in KH3D. Yes I know it was just a message, but it says what are the upcoming games after KH3D.

 

"The past will be reawakened as a new number in never-before-seen detail." (KH HD Remakes 1.5 & 2.5, no 3d as that is not the past) "Prepare yourself for the awakening of the next number." (KH3)

Ah, but by acknowledging everything in the context of Kingdom Hearts III as the present, Dream Drop Distance automatically becomes the past, does it not? ;{3

Oh for f... COME ON, KH3 isn't going to be released anywhere until at LEAST 2017. They are looking for new people to work on KH3, which clearly shows they have JUST started development on it. Remastering KH 3D isn't going to completely halt KH3's development:

 

- It's just ONE game.

- It doesn't necessarily need to be done by the Osaka team.

- Only The graphics and controls need to be updated.

 

I'm no expert on developing games but remastering a single game should be completed quicker than the previous ReMix's. Seeing people say 'We just want KH3' reminds me of practically every other time a game that isn't KH3 was announced (BBS, 358/2 Days, Re:Coded and KH3D). There are new fans of the Kingdom Hearts Series who are going to be confused if they jump from KH 2.5 to KH3 if they never play KH3D, which could happen as those same new fans aren't going to fork out money for a new handheld to play one game. Sorry if this sounds like a rant, i just needed to get this off my shoulders.

 

According to Yasue, when they began to work in 1.5 HD, they studied the game code, and they realized that, as the original games were released on PS2, it was more easy and cheaper to adapt them to PS3, Kingdom Hearts 3D doesn't have that sort of code so remastering would take longer than the other ReMixes that were just updated in graphics and controls.

 

I'm sorry to say this but saying only the graphics and controls need to be updated is just plain ignorant. So your saying the following gameplay wouldn't need updating?: Reality shifts, Water barrels, Treasure goggles, Balloon minigame, Flick Rush and petting Dream Eaters gameplay. And how would people access the Special, Secret, Link, Friendship portals during battle? And what about the bottom screen stuff like maps, ability link and the Forecast? You do realize that most of that would need to be removed or replaced with something similar don't you? I'm no expert on developing games either but I can clearly see like many others that reworking gameplay like this would take some time. Maybe even time from working on KH3?  

 

LA LA LA I'M NOT LISTENING = please don't let this be your response

 

And to anyone bringing up how the 3DS game Resident Evil Revelations was ported to consoles, that game had minimum amount of touch screen features plus it was made on MT framework which is easily scalable and portable so I've heard. On the other hand KH 3D, may I remind you guys is on no such thing.

Edited by Mirr0rVS13

According to Yasue, when they began to work in 1.5 HD, they studied the game code, and they realized that, as the original games were released on PS2, it was more easy and cheaper to adapt them to PS3, Kingdom Hearts 3D doesn't have that sort of code so remastering would take longer than the other ReMixes that were just updated in graphics and controls.

 

I'm sorry to say this but saying only the graphics and controls need to be updated is just plain ignorant. So your saying the following gameplay wouldn't need updating?: Reality shifts, Water barrels, Treasure goggles, Balloon minigame, Flick Rush and petting Dream Eaters gameplay. And how would people access the Special, Secret, Link, Friendship portals during battle? And what about the bottom screen stuff like maps, ability link and the Forecast? You do realize that most of that would need to be removed or replaced with something similar don't you? I'm no expert on developing games either but I can clearly see like many others that reworking gameplay like this would take some time. Maybe even time from working on KH3?  

 

LA LA LA I'M NOT LISTENING = please don't let this be your response

 

And to anyone bringing up how the 3DS game Resident Evil Revelations was ported to consoles, that game had minimum amount of touch screen features plus it was made on MT framework which is easily scalable and portable so I've heard. On the other hand KH 3D, may I remind you guys is on no such thing.

Oh I know about that now, so i will admit making it would affect KH3 and I was wrong. :P But that doesn't mean it isn't possible in the future perhaps after KH3?

Oh I know about that now, so i will admit making it would affect KH3 and I was wrong. :P But that doesn't mean it isn't possible in the future perhaps after KH3?

After KH3, I agree with you it should be possible.

 

Though remaking KH 358/2 days, KH Re:coded, and reworking KH 3D on to consoles should have always been a possibility but you can blame that on the impatient "WHERES KH3?!!!!" fans sadly. xD

Edited by Mirr0rVS13

The first trailer we saw for KHIII was for the E3,June 2013. In 4 month , we will be in 2015. And you REALLY think they have just started the development ? So they have absolutely done  nothing in more than a year ? I'm bored of hearing people saying that after more than a year, the development just started like a week ago.

 

And the fact is that it would be pretty difficult to adapt the controls because of the many features the touch pad can bring. That's why we will probably never have 358/2 days , Re Coded and KH3D. And that's why we have Theaters Modes for those. And simple logic, if they have to make a 10 people team for working on KH3D , that's 10 people who aren't working on KHIII.

None of that tells me why that's enough to delay the development of KHIII, especially when we don't know how many people are needed to work on KHIII. And like he said, it doesn't have to be Osaka who works on it, another team could work on it if they set it up.

Ah, but by acknowledging everything in the context of Kingdom Hearts III as the present, Dream Drop Distance automatically becomes the past, does it not? ;{3

No as the message was in 3d (the present) and KH3 is the future when stated as "the next number". So the games before 3d are the past. ;{3

Edited by Master Eraqus

No as the message was in 3d (the present) and KH3 is the future when stated as "the next number". So the games before 3d are the past. ;{3

AhahaHA! But what if I were to, say, ignore whatever point you made, no matter how insightful, and just chose to blindly believe in what I think is right? ;{3

 

Nah, kidding. You've got a point there, but the fact remains that Nomura acknowledges that 3D is an important part of the series and in retelling the entire story for new fans "it wouldn't make sense to leave one story out". Nomura knows that something should be done with 3D, and now they are considering what to do with it. I'd say it's only a matter of time until we know what's happening. Why don't we just wait rather than cutting down other peoples hopes and dreams, eh?  ;)

AhahaHA! But what if I were to, say, ignore whatever point you made, no matter how insightful, and just chose to blindly believe in what I think is right? ;{3

 

Nah, kidding. You've got a point there, but the fact remains that Nomura acknowledges that 3D is an important part of the series and in retelling the entire story for new fans "it wouldn't make sense to leave one story out". Nomura knows that something should be done with 3D, and now they are considering what to do with it. I'd say it's only a matter of time until we know what's happening. Why don't we just wait rather than cutting down other peoples hopes and dreams, eh?  ;)

True, you do have a point, in fact I would like a remake of this game, but not until KH3 is out as I am one of those people who wants KH3 to be the next game after 2.5 and nothing else because I know that game will be epic, amazing and be a thrilling conclusion the Xehanort Saga.

True, you do have a point, in fact I would like a remake of this game, but not until KH3 is out as I am one of those people who wants KH3 to be the next game after 2.5 and nothing else because I know that game will be epic, amazing and be a thrilling conclusion the Xehanort Saga.

Well, we're at least at an understanding. However, to me, it just wouldn't make sense to have III come before 3D get's acknowledged, it's like skipping a chapter in a book just to get to the epic ending. The last thing I want to do is to "skip" a chapter in the Xehanort saga, and I don't want to see new fans doing that either. I tend to be a bit of a perfectionist, so I'd much rather see what is to be done with 3D before III is in my hands. I want III, but I want no loose ends to be left untied before it comes out. It just wouldn't make sense to go backwards after III, I want everything to be completed and out of the way so that after III we get to advance forward in the storyline, not go back because we carelessly forgot something important. But we'll just have to wait and see. If nothing is done about it, I guess I'll just have to settle with playing DDD on my 3DS again, but I still really hope that they do have a plan to do something nice for DDD before III is released.

Edited by Hero of Light XIV

According to Yasue, when they began to work in 1.5 HD, they studied the game code, and they realized that, as the original games were released on PS2, it was more easy and cheaper to adapt them to PS3, Kingdom Hearts 3D doesn't have that sort of code so remastering would take longer than the other ReMixes that were just updated in graphics and controls.

 

I'm sorry to say this but saying only the graphics and controls need to be updated is just plain ignorant. So your saying the following gameplay wouldn't need updating?: Reality shifts, Water barrels, Treasure goggles, Balloon minigame, Flick Rush and petting Dream Eaters gameplay. And how would people access the Special, Secret, Link, Friendship portals during battle? And what about the bottom screen stuff like maps, ability link and the Forecast? You do realize that most of that would need to be removed or replaced with something similar don't you? I'm no expert on developing games either but I can clearly see like many others that reworking gameplay like this would take some time. Maybe even time from working on KH3?  

 

LA LA LA I'M NOT LISTENING = please don't let this be your response

 

And to anyone bringing up how the 3DS game Resident Evil Revelations was ported to consoles, that game had minimum amount of touch screen features plus it was made on MT framework which is easily scalable and portable so I've heard. On the other hand KH 3D, may I remind you guys is on no such thing.

 

 

That's a load of shit then because PS2 and PS3 architecture are nothing alike. Only way was if they had uncompilable source code and redirected things to work on PS3. it wasn't totally 1:1.

 

KH3D while possibly made on 3DS dev kits it still was in production in 2010-2011. therefore it was made under better rendering and coding and the source should actually make it the easiest to port over. 3DS was ARM.

 

The game is OVER two years old now and by the time they would announce and release such HD remaster if will be OVER three years. Yes new 3DS is coming out, but the game is still in shitty 240p with tons of aliasing and no AF. You guys think that's good IQ and good enough stacked up to others that have HD remasters? Not to mention the framerate is sporadic.

Do you guys want a remaster that will delay kingdom hearts 3 even further? That doesn't make much sense. If SE can just take one year of working on kingdom hearts 3 without having to work on remasters that will give us hopes on a 2016 release date or at least a late 2017 release date. If they do this they will probably be halfway finished with the game and when they work on it for another year they will probably be 75% finished in the game. Think about it. 

Edited by Zeldablade7

just going to add my 2 cents on how much manpower it would take, honestly not that much compared to 1.5 and 2.5, the only resources they would need to divert are coders and maybe a few graphic design artists. Not that much and the rest of the KH3 team can keep working on building graphical assets and such. 1.5 took a LOT more work considering the coding they had to do(port 2 games), animation for days, and didn't they also loose a lot of the graphical assets for KH1?

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