Nintendo Really Need to Change Their Way

[thecriticgamer 7]

Nintendo is getting weak, they have done so many mistakes, I will not focus on the problem and rather the solutions on how to bring Nintendo back.

 

1) Nintendo need to make their hardware more powerful: If Nintendo will make their hardware more strong the can display better graphics, but i bring it because it will make third party developers to come back to Nintendo. Think about that, if a company wan to release game on multiple platform like PS4 and the Xbox one' it will be easy, just change some things from the PS4 to the Xbox one and it will be easy, since they are not really different in terms of hardwere capeabilaty. But with the Wii-U it will be more difficult because you must change the code, lower the graphics, use the Wii-U game pad and all of that costs time and money, so instead making a game that will be on all platforms and for one platform they will need to put extra work, they can cut that platform and release the game on the other platform without extra time and money wasted.

 

2) Changing the audiance for their console: Think about that, Nintendo today is seems to be the platform for the casual. The problem is that hardcore gamers and third party developers are avoiding the Wii-U and 3DS because of it. No hardcore gamers will want to play on a console that was dedicated for casual gamers and no third party developer will want to make a game on a console for casual players because the majoraty of the costumers will not buy this because it's too violant for little kids. The second problem is that the audiance that Nintendo is reaching out for is long gone. The Wii sold well because it was simple yet charming for the family, but today and even in the Wii era the rise of smartphone games took the audience that was from Nintendo to their market and now Nintendo is trying to go to an audience that is not here anymore but on the smartphone market. A great example I can give is from the Wii era:  A family will buy a Wii, play it a little bit, then the discover the smartphones and now that Wii is sitting the covered in dust. The solution is to go for the hardcore gamers so they will actually play the games and then third party developers will come. Simple as it's sounds.

 

3) Stop cash grabbing, what I mean can be classified in one word: "Console milking". It's where you make a conlose, then after a year of three you release an enhanced verison of this console. In theory pepole will buy this console because pepole will want more enhanced verison of their console, but what is really happening pepole get angry because their console become worthless and now if they want the newer verison the will have to spend more money while the company laughing at their faces. It's true, in fact after Nintendo announced the new 3DS I said that I am done with them.

 

Well, that's it, maybe I missed some other solutions but those are the mainly solutions I  wanted to focus about. You have another solution? Share it here! I will love to hear.

Edited September 29, 2014 by thecriticgamer

[Demyx. 10,064]

I love the way Nintendo goes things though. I don't want the to change. Nintendo Master Race Twenty Fourteen!

 

Also, wanted to know. I'm a "harcore gamer"...I think and I love Nintendo. 

Edited September 29, 2014 by Squirting Demyx

[GotMilk5101520 573]

Nintendo is fine the way they are.

[Hero of Winds 2,576]

Nintendo's doing pretty good as is right now. Sure they run into the multiple problem or two, but that's okay.

[littleTSUBAME 483]

I think Nintendo has it's own, loyal fanbase, much like ps and xbox... The main problem here might be there's not enough great games for Nintendo (mainly speaking about 3DS since I don't have Wii U). But the system itself is pretty cool so I don't want it to change too much. It's very distinctive compared to PS and xbox and that's why I like it. Though it might not be as appealing to game developers...

[Kaweebo 3,617]

Nintendo is fine the way they are.

Yeah, man. Legend of Zelda WiiU, Starfox WiiU, Super Smash; they've got it goin' good right now.

[advfox 698]

The company is fine as it is. 

[Forever 3,550]

I think they're doing a little better than Square right now.

[OmegaForte 1,674]

If it weren't for what they have in the bank, they'd be doing kinda bad.

[darkerturbo 168]

I think nintendo is a wonderful company, and aside for some qualms with their online features in games, I don't really want them to change that much. A little modernization doesn't hurt (and not in the way of making a new console with ps4/xbone level graphics). Three major things I have to say though. 1. How the hell can they release a console now that has ps4 level graphics without "console milking" as you put it. There's no way for them to do both 2. Nintendo themselves said they are trying to focus on hardcore gamers, and Miyamoto said (paraphrasing here) that he hates casuals. 3. The Wii U is not selling for one reason and one reason only: a bad stigma. People have it stuck in their heads that nintendo makes kiddy consoles thanks to the wii (which had many great games) and that they don't have any games, despite the fact that there are more games for the wii u than the ps4 or xbone. If you look, every single developer who has released a wii u exclusive have gotten complaints from fans to put it on multiple platforms, especially platinum and sega. Yet those same people also refuse to buy the wii u because it "has no games." So there you have it. Nintendo doesn't suck, people just like to cling to negative ideas and never let go.

[MasterRoxas13 340]

Nintendo has its issues but so does Sony and Microsoft ( I will get on them later). In the long run it could harm them so I am not mindlessly defending them. Now a few claims can be thrown out the window.  Nintendo is not getting weak because of the Wii U, the system just came out only 2 years ago it has at least another 5 more years so the best has yet to come for them but of course their is a natural bias for PS/Xbox amd against Nintendo now in North America  after the Wii crazed died done.

 

1. Nintendo having weaker hardware is not the main issue and it never has with the Wii U ( unlike the Wii which was much more weaker to its competitors then the Wii U is with its competitors) the issue is that third party software just does not sell well on Nintendo platforms ( mainly there home consoles) anybody can wave the power flag all they want but if Third party devs keep treating Nintendo and Wii U fans like their step child ( with missing DLC or multiplayer in there games , delayed releases etc) then of course their software is not going to sell well on that platform. Now with the whole " they need more powerful hardware" bull , the N64 and the Gamecube were very powerful consoles for their time and they still didn't win their retrospective console wars lol. Another thing is look how devs are supporting the 360 and PS3. These old consoles are less powerful then the Wii U but are getting at least HALF of the games that are coming to PC, PS4, Xbox One : the whole power argument goes down the drain really quick after people realize this fact. The real problem is that maybe third party devs and Nintendo need to come to a compromise and try to work together instead of one feeling like they are more superior then another. and actually market Third party games for Nintendo platforms as much as those games are markets for PlayStation and Xbox platforms

 

2. Think about it , who buys the annual releases of COD , Assassin Creed and EA sports games every year. Its not just the so called "hardcore gamers" . Many people buy those games on for the Xbox and PlayStation platforms. So you know what that makes the PS4 and Xbox One right . Yes you guessed right , they are casual systems as well since most of the audience on those platforms are very causal as well if not more casual then the gamers on Nintendo systems lol . Its illogical to think that Call of Duty is any less casual then Mario. Many people play Call Of Duty for example because it has that easy to pick up and play value same with Mario. But when you really think about Nintendo actually has just as many franchises for the casuals as major third part studios!!!! The only real reason why people are not buying Wii U in droves like they did with the Wii  is because of the lack of marketing on the same level as the Wii. I remember when the 7th gen consoles came out back in 05/06 their was just as many or even MORE Wii commercials then Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 commercials, then the rest was history. Consumers have to be aware of your product for it to be successful, and since the Wii U was confused with the Wii ( and still is a little) the families and casuals went straight for Smartphones/ Tablets ,and PS4 and Xbox Ones ( who else do you think is buying all those consoles lol its just as much as the casuals as the hardcore).

 

3. Funny when you say cash grabbing when Sony and Microsoft encourage paying for online, Micro- transactions and on disc DLC( which is the true money grabbing tactics that is harming the consumers). They have always done this with their handhelds, Look at the original Gameboy all the way up to the 3DS, even Sony did it with the PSP-1000 all the up to the PSP go. They are already doing the same thing with the PS Vita. They never really did that with their consoles before but Sony and Microsoft has. I remember when the PS3 first came out it only had the options to buy it at 20GB to 60 or 80BB. Now almost 8 years later you can get them for 250gb, 320 gb or even 500gb ( same with the 360 mine has 320Gb but my first one had somewhere between 150 and 200).Now I don't agree with Nintendo screwing over their fanbase that bought 3DS and 3DS XL due to the fact that you can't play certain games on the new 3DS and new 3DS XL. But the other two have done something similar with same with the amount of memory they start you off with in at the launch of their systems

 

Sorry if I come off as rude because I am just stating certain points.

Edited September 29, 2014 by MasterRoxas13

[Guest]

Nintendo is getting weak, they have done so many mistakes, I will not focus on the problem and rather the solutions on how to bring Nintendo back. 1) Nintendo need to make their hardware more powerful: If Nintendo will make their hardware more strong the can display better graphics, but i bring it because it will make third party developers to come back to Nintendo. Think about that, if a company wan to release game on multiple platform like PS4 and the Xbox one' it will be easy, just change some things from the PS4 to the Xbox one and it will be easy, since they are not really different in terms of hardwere capeabilaty. But with the Wii-U it will be more difficult because you must change the code, lower the graphics, use the Wii-U game pad and all of that costs time and money, so instead making a game that will be on all platforms and for one platform they will need to put extra work, they can cut that platform and release the game on the other platform without extra time and money wasted. 2) Changing the audiance for their console: Think about that, Nintendo today is seems to be the platform for the casual. The problem is that hardcore gamers and third party developers are avoiding the Wii-U and 3DS because of it. No hardcore gamers will want to play on a console that was dedicated for casual gamers and no third party developer will want to make a game on a console for casual players because the majoraty of the costumers will not buy this because it's too violant for little kids. The second problem is that the audiance that Nintendo is reaching out for is long gone. The Wii sold well because it was simple yet charming for the family, but today and even in the Wii era the rise of smartphone games took the audience that was from Nintendo to their market and now Nintendo is trying to go to an audience that is not here anymore but on the smartphone market. A great example I can give is from the Wii era:  A family will buy a Wii, play it a little bit, then the discover the smartphones and now that Wii is sitting the covered in dust. The solution is to go for the hardcore gamers so they will actually play the games and then third party developers will come. Simple as it's sounds. 3) Stop cash grabbing, what I mean can be classified in one word: "Console milking". It's where you make a conlose, then after a year of three you release an enhanced verison of this console. In theory pepole will buy this console because pepole will want more enhanced verison of their console, but what is really happening pepole get angry because their console become worthless and now if they want the newer verison the will have to spend more money while the company laughing at their faces. It's true, in fact after Nintendo announced the new 3DS I said that I am done with them. Well, that's it, maybe I missed some other solutions but those are the mainly solutions I  wanted to focus about. You have another solution? Share it here! I will love to hear.

1 graphics don't make a game. The Game pad dosen't have to be intergrated, this is a common mistake. All that has to be implemented is a screen graphic and control scheme, nothing dificult. 3rd Party isn't the most important, exclusive content is, which very little to nearly no games on any of the other consoles are exclusive. Most are on both the Xbox One and PS4, as well as PC, and even sometimes the Wii U as well. If a 3rd Party company decided to make a exclusive for the system, they don't have to worry about ports. Exclusive games are the most important when it comes to a consoles lybrary.2 they're target audience is fine. If a developer dosen't want to develop for the system, then too bad. Personally, I hate the "hard core" or "causal" gamer. We all play games. The only people I choose to separate out is those of the mobile market because of the fact that mobile games aren't very intensive at all, and are basically just time burners. Most of the time, people buying the system like Nintendo games and products or wish to try them, regardless of a systems ability. A console is for gaming, which is for fun. It's not that serious.3 "console grabbing" isn't nessicary a bad thing. The 3DS is a rather old handheld system that may not have had all the features that Nintendo had wished to implement or had not hardware for some new games they wanted to get out. Sometimes you need to update the system so it can handle more games. And I doubt it will make the original 3DS obsolete, not every new 3DS game is going to require the new hardware to use it. The newer games that require a very powerful processor and a better motherboard will be things like the port of Xenoblade Chronicles, which is a rather large game, and I doubt that there will be a whole lot of those. Also, other companies are guilty of this, the higher hard drive sized Xbox and Play Station systems have been commonplace for a while now as well. And then the PC gaming track as well, where anything older than a year old is a ready obsolete.

[RikuFangirl2008 1,368]

Nintendo is fine the way they are. 

[Isaix 924]

1) I don't think a more powerful hardware would attract 3rd Party developpers to the Wii U.There's a bunch of games that are being release on PS4,Xbox ONE,PS3 and 360,but not the Wii U. Even if the Wii U was more powerful,3rd party games wouldn't sell any better,its up to Nintendo to find a way to attract 3rd Party dev and to advertise them properly on the Wii U.And look at the DS and 3DS,3rd party seem to support those a lot more then the Wii and Wii U.

 

2) I agree that Nintendo should stop aiming all their games to the casual market,but I think they've made some progress to fix that issues,with Mario Kart 8 that has a bigger emphasis on skill rather than items like in Mario Kart Wii,Super Mario 3D World is more challenging then the Galaxy games,etc

 

For the most part I'm fine with Nintendo the way they are now except for the way they are currently treating the Eshop.Its not that big of a deal,but its unbelievable that there's still no cross-buy between the Wii U and 3DS,if I want to play NES,SNES,GBC or GBA games I should be able to play them on both the 3DS or the Wii U whenever I want and there should be more games release each week,the GBA is still missing a lot of great 1st party games.

[Reflet 201]

There was and will always be Nintendo fanboy who support the company.

Nintendo was always casual, that's what took it to the top.

The "new 3DS" has a lot more features than the older ones, it makes it feel fresh

[thecriticgamer 7]

1 graphics don't make a game. The Game pad dosen't have to be intergrated, this is a common mistake. All that has to be implemented is a screen graphic and control scheme, nothing dificult. 3rd Party isn't the most important, exclusive content is, which very little to nearly no games on any of the other consoles are exclusive. Most are on both the Xbox One and PS4, as well as PC, and even sometimes the Wii U as well. If a 3rd Party company decided to make a exclusive for the system, they don't have to worry about ports. Exclusive games are the most important when it comes to a consoles lybrary.

 

2 they're target audience is fine. If a developer dosen't want to develop for the system, then too bad. Personally, I hate the "hard core" or "causal" gamer. We all play games. The only people I choose to separate out is those of the mobile market because of the fact that mobile games aren't very intensive at all, and are basically just time burners. Most of the time, people buying the system like Nintendo games and products or wish to try them, regardless of a systems ability. A console is for gaming, which is for fun. It's not that serious.

 

3 "console grabbing" isn't nessicary a bad thing. The 3DS is a rather old handheld system that may not have had all the features that Nintendo had wished to implement or had not hardware for some new games they wanted to get out. Sometimes you need to update the system so it can handle more games. And I doubt it will make the original 3DS obsolete, not every new 3DS game is going to require the new hardware to use it. The newer games that require a very powerful processor and a better motherboard will be things like the port of Xenoblade Chronicles, which is a rather large game, and I doubt that there will be a whole lot of those. Also, other companies are guilty of this, the higher hard drive sized Xbox and Play Station systems have been commonplace for a while now as well. And then the PC gaming track as well, where anything older than a year old is a ready obsolete.

1 Greaphics were an example of how developer witt not waste his time making the port for the Wii-U. Third party titels are importent as well, is the mix of good first party titls and third party titles that make the libary of the console. And if the third party title are on the Xbox one and PS4 would'nt make if better if it was on the Wii-U as well?

 

2 If a console is dedicated to casual gamers, it's okay. The problem is Nintendo is trying to reach for an audience that is left Nintendo long time ago and went to the smartphone. So there isn't an audience for Nintendo consoles.

 

3 I understand what you are trying to say but to release the console three year after the original console and claiming this is the "true" console meaning the original console value is lower is not okay at all. Nintendo can make thw features to the new next gen handheld and it will be fine. And yes PC is gulty of that as well but at there your PC value isn't getting lower like the 3DS

 

Nintendo is fine the way they are. 

Look at their sales and how much good third party titels are on Nintndo.

 

1) I don't think a more powerful hardware would attract 3rd Party developpers to the Wii U.There's a bunch of games that are being release on PS4,Xbox ONE,PS3 and 360,but not the Wii U. Even if the Wii U was more powerful,3rd party games wouldn't sell any better,its up to Nintendo to find a way to attract 3rd Party dev and to advertise them properly on the Wii U.And look at the DS and 3DS,3rd party seem to support those a lot more then the Wii and Wii U.

 

2) I agree that Nintendo should stop aiming all their games to the casual market,but I think they've made some progress to fix that issues,with Mario Kart 8 that has a bigger emphasis on skill rather than items like in Mario Kart Wii,Super Mario 3D World is more challenging then the Galaxy games,etc

 

For the most part I'm fine with Nintendo the way they are now except for the way they are currently treating the Eshop.Its not that big of a deal,but its unbelievable that there's still no cross-buy between the Wii U and 3DS,if I want to play NES,SNES,GBC or GBA games I should be able to play them on both the 3DS or the Wii U whenever I want and there should be more games release each week,the GBA is still missing a lot of great 1st party games.

1)  It will, because now making the Wii-U port for a multiplatform game shouldn't be hard. But maybe you right. 

2) True, Nintendo is fixing this issue but it's still there and it only got slightly better.

 

There was and will always be Nintendo fanboy who support the company.

Nintendo was always casual, that's what took it to the top.

The "new 3DS" has a lot more features than the older ones, it makes it feel fresh

True, but it will make the original console value very low.

[Guest]

1 Greaphics were an example of how developer witt not waste his time making the port for the Wii-U. Third party titels are importent as well, is the mix of good first party titls and third party titles that make the libary of the console. And if the third party title are on the Xbox one and PS4 would'nt make if better if it was on the Wii-U as well? 2 If a console is dedicated to casual gamers, it's okay. The problem is Nintendo is trying to reach for an audience that is left Nintendo long time ago and went to the smartphone. So there isn't an audience for Nintendo consoles. 3 I understand what you are trying to say but to release the console three year after the original console and claiming this is the "true" console meaning the original console value is lower is not okay at all. Nintendo can make thw features to the new next gen handheld and it will be fine. And yes PC is gulty of that as well but at there your PC value isn't getting lower like the 3DS Look at their sales and how much good third party titels are on Nintndo. 1)  It will, because now making the Wii-U port for a multiplatform game shouldn't be hard. But maybe you right. 2) True, Nintendo is fixing this issue but it's still there and it only got slightly better. True, but it will make the original console value very low.

1 The issue is that if a 3rd party Gane was to be developed for the XBO and PS4, they're really not that far off from the Wii U. And changing the poly counts on a game is not that dificult as long as you kept the base model, something that is always done for a game(source: I've been through a professional game design course, and that is one of the big lessons they teach: keep everything). It's not really all that hard to port to the Wii U. The only time there is really a hardware limitation is if the processor/motherboard dosen't like the games engine(Source: Square's reason behind not porting KH3 to Wii U). Straight-up, if a 3rd party game isn't developed for the Wii U, it's because the Dev just didn't want to do it, we there it being that they just don't think that it will be worth the port in terms of cost to work or other reasons. Rarely it's hardware limitations. 2 "No audience" argument is false. They've sold millions of units(at least 1.9 in Japan alone), if you call that "no audience", not entirely sure that you're correct in that statment.3 your stating that they're devaluing the original, but it's not like they are saying "buy this or you won't have a working 3DS anymore". There will be probably 12 new games that work specifically for the new version, but they're likely going to be ports of other games which are available, thus not truly devaluing having the original since they're available elsewhere. This is likely also the outlier in the statment that hardware limitations are an issue. Titles have been wanted to be developed for the 3DS, but due to lack of a non-intergrated secondary stick or a weaker processor than nessicary, games that showed promise of coming onto the original had to turn away because of that. Howevdr, they wish to rectify that issue and get more games for the system. If they could update the tech via an update, I'm almost certain they would, but they cannot, we don't have that type of technology. So they made a new version, however they would loose massive amounts of money if they gave them away to all previous users of the 3DS. As a company, they have to keep afloat, so they decided to sell it. Sometimes an upgrade is nessicary. And parts do devalue on a computer, literally daily they do.

[RikuFangirl2008 1,368]

1 Greaphics were an example of how developer witt not waste his time making the port for the Wii-U. Third party titels are importent as well, is the mix of good first party titls and third party titles that make the libary of the console. And if the third party title are on the Xbox one and PS4 would'nt make if better if it was on the Wii-U as well?

 

2 If a console is dedicated to casual gamers, it's okay. The problem is Nintendo is trying to reach for an audience that is left Nintendo long time ago and went to the smartphone. So there isn't an audience for Nintendo consoles.

 

3 I understand what you are trying to say but to release the console three year after the original console and claiming this is the "true" console meaning the original console value is lower is not okay at all. Nintendo can make thw features to the new next gen handheld and it will be fine. And yes PC is gulty of that as well but at there your PC value isn't getting lower like the 3DS

 

Look at their sales and how much good third party titels are on Nintndo.

 

1)  It will, because now making the Wii-U port for a multiplatform game shouldn't be hard. But maybe you right. 

2) True, Nintendo is fixing this issue but it's still there and it only got slightly better.

 

True, but it will make the original console value very low.

 

I don't give a Hoot-Hoot about their sales. They are fine the way they are, like I said.

They don't need to change their graphics, the speed of their systems, or add in certain titles that are on the Xbox or PS3 and PS4, whatever.... 

I personally don't think it's all about the high-quality graphics, the way the console runs, and the type of games that are on the console.  

Edited September 30, 2014 by RikuFangirl2008

[thecriticgamer 7]

1 The issue is that if a 3rd party Gane was to be developed for the XBO and PS4, they're really not that far off from the Wii U. And changing the poly counts on a game is not that dificult as long as you kept the base model, something that is always done for a game(source: I've been through a professional game design course, and that is one of the big lessons they teach: keep everything). It's not really all that hard to port to the Wii U. The only time there is really a hardware limitation is if the processor/motherboard dosen't like the games engine(Source: Square's reason behind not porting KH3 to Wii U). Straight-up, if a 3rd party game isn't developed for the Wii U, it's because the Dev just didn't want to do it, we there it being that they just don't think that it will be worth the port in terms of cost to work or other reasons. Rarely it's hardware limitations.2 "No audience" argument is false. They've sold millions of units(at least 1.9 in Japan alone), if you call that "no audience", not entirely sure that you're correct in that statment.3 your stating that they're devaluing the original, but it's not like they are saying "buy this or you won't have a working 3DS anymore". There will be probably 12 new games that work specifically for the new version, but they're likely going to be ports of other games which are available, thus not truly devaluing having the original since they're available elsewhere. This is likely also the outlier in the statment that hardware limitations are an issue. Titles have been wanted to be developed for the 3DS, but due to lack of a non-intergrated secondary stick or a weaker processor than nessicary, games that showed promise of coming onto the original had to turn away because of that. Howevdr, they wish to rectify that issue and get more games for the system. If they could update the tech via an update, I'm almost certain they would, but they cannot, we don't have that type of technology. So they made a new version, however they would loose massive amounts of money if they gave them away to all previous users of the 3DS. As a company, they have to keep afloat, so they decided to sell it. Sometimes an upgrade is nessicary. And parts do devalue on a computer, literally daily they do.

1) True, but developers don't want to waste time and money by making a port to a weaker console.

 

2)They have their audience, but they nded to change their audience for the hardcore ones so third party developers will come back to Nintendo. But I agree that i was wrong for the "no audience".

 

3)I didn't say that, I said the value of the console is weaker because of the newer version, not that the console will not work. And from what you are saying you are saying that the new 3DS is the true one and who baught the original was not geting the true 3DS, and yeah upgrade is nececary but not at the cost of the fans.

 

I don't give a Hoot-Hoot about their sales. They are fine the way they are, like I said.

They don't need to change their graphics, the speed of their systems, or add in certain titles that are on the Xbox or PS3 and PS4, whatever.... 

I personally don't think it's all about the high-quality graphics, the way the console runs, and the type of games that are on the console.  

They don't need to change thir graphic, the graphic was an example of how to make the hardware more powerful.

1) True, but developers don't want to waste time and money by making a port to a weaker console.

 

2)They have their audience, but they nded to change their audience for the hardcore ones so third party developers will come back to Nintendo. But I agree that i was wrong for the "no audience".

 

3)I didn't say that, I said the value of the console is weaker because of the newer version, not that the console will not work. And from what you are saying you are saying that the new 3DS is the true one and who baught the original was not geting the true 3DS, and yeah upgrade is nececary but not at the cost of the fans.

 

They don't need to change thir graphic, the graphic was an example of how to make the hardware more powerful. I was focused on the hardware.

[Zachy1993 65]

Just because they don't appeal to the COD gamers who squeak into their microphones on Xbox Live, and all the lame shooters that come out that are pretty much the same rehashed crap.

 

I got into this kind of argument with someone on another site just the other day, I tried being civil, but the person just wasn't hearing it...their ears were too damaged from all the BANGBANGBANGBANG POW POW POW POW POW POW RATATATATATATATATATAT!

Nintendo has QUALITY on their side, and at the end of the day...that's all that matters.

[RikuFangirl2008 1,368]

1) True, but developers don't want to waste time and money by making a port to a weaker console.

 

2)They have their audience, but they nded to change their audience for the hardcore ones so third party developers will come back to Nintendo. But I agree that i was wrong for the "no audience".

 

3)I didn't say that, I said the value of the console is weaker because of the newer version, not that the console will not work. And from what you are saying you are saying that the new 3DS is the true one and who baught the original was not geting the true 3DS, and yeah upgrade is nececary but not at the cost of the fans.

 

They don't need to change thir graphic, the graphic was an example of how to make the hardware more powerful.

 

Powerful hardware....

I think they sort of did that to the new 3DS. (Keyword: "I think")

I saw some IGN video about the new 3DS. And it had some clips from its trailer. It's downloads faster than a regular 3DS. That's one I can point out of its features. 

[Clouded Sun 1,232]

#NintendoBeFriendo.

[thecriticgamer 7]

Just because they don't appeal to the COD gamers who squeak into their microphones on Xbox Live, and all the lame shooters that come out that are pretty much the same rehashed crap.

 

I got into this kind of argument with someone on another site just the other day, I tried being civil, but the person just wasn't hearing it...their ears were too damaged from all the BANGBANGBANGBANG POW POW POW POW POW POW RATATATATATATATATATAT!

Nintendo has QUALITY on their side, and at the end of the day...that's all that matters.

The gamers you talking about is a kind of it's own. I am talking about pepole who play GTA5,Red Dead redemption and more.

Powerful hardware....

I think they sort of did that to the new 3DS. (Keyword: "I think")

I saw some IGN video about the new 3DS. And it had some clips from its trailer. It's downloads faster than a regular 3DS. That's one I can point out of its features. 

Yeah, I think as well but pepole give attention more to home consoles rather then handheld consoles.

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Powerful hardware....

I think they sort of did that to the new 3DS. (Keyword: "I think")

I saw some IGN video about the new 3DS. And it had some clips from its trailer. It's downloads faster than a regular 3DS. That's one I can point out of its features. 

The New 3DS also has upgraded hardware, which is the only reason it can run a game like Xenoblade Chronicles. A normal 3DS would never be able to run that game.

 

Also, I like the New 3DS because of the built in C-Stick. As a left handed gamer, just having the one circle pad on the left side, and having to pay extra money for a second was a really freaking stupid thing that prevented me from playing games like Kid Icarus Uprising. Having this option opens up new games to me, so I'm all for it.

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Smash Bros. when used on the New 3DS can use the C-stick because of more power. I read on a website that the Circle Pad takes up 5% of the 3DS' CPU, and Smash Bros. already runs at full power (Long startup time, restart when closing, no Miiverse or Internet Browser--Do you guys see this or is it just me?). I think Nintendo opened the doors for a better oppurtunity. Although, yes, I do wish it was another console entirely (maybe with HD display). Being rebranded as another 3DS makes consumers feel like they're paying for the same thing.

 

Although I know devs will be happy to release games on the new hardware.

And Nintendo does cater to the hardcore as much as the casual. There's nothing bad about them. They're even doing what PlayStation DIDN'T and are revitalizing a console we all thought was dead. Remember E3?

Edited October 1, 2014 by Sun Wukong