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  • Kyogre, Groundon, and Rayquaza's reactions too IGN's "Too Much Water"  

  • ... Well. It is, like. Hoenn. The Hoenn region has a lot of water. This IS a remake and the original Hoenn had a lot of water. So I don't see why Game Freak would change that.

  • http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/too-much-water   How much IGN fails that one review started memes in a day. ROFL   That, or they're Team Magma. Hmm...

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Except the fact that the amount of boring water routes in RSE was a problem that was agreed upon, but Game Freak decided to leave it as is. So that is a legitimate negative....Sorry, I'm just really tired of everyone bitching about IGN like it's still 2009. >_>

... Well.

It is, like. Hoenn.

The Hoenn region has a lot of water. This IS a remake and the original Hoenn had a lot of water.

So I don't see why Game Freak would change that.

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Except the fact that the amount of boring water routes in RSE was a problem that was agreed upon, but Game Freak decided to leave it as is. So that is a legitimate negative....Sorry, I'm just really tired of everyone bitching about IGN like it's still 2009. >_>

No one's bitching here.

Except the fact that the amount of boring water routes in RSE was a problem that was agreed upon, but Game Freak decided to leave it as is. So that is a legitimate negative....Sorry, I'm just really tired of everyone bitching about IGN like it's still 2009. >_>

IGN is dumb for this...

 

anyways yall should watch this

Edited by Waller-pearson

Okay if you read/watch the actual review it isn't complaining on actual water, but just the amount of Water Types is too much.

I kind of understand where this is coming from, there is land on Hoenn, they should probably type abundance balance it a bit more to help make it less of a gap between Water and other types. They said that they really wound up using a single pokemon a bit too much to counter them, such as Pikachu that is such a high level. IMO, its not a big deal to me, but its understandable. I think the game deserves an 8.0 - 8.5 though.

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well someone's never played pokemon if they think there's too many hm's and water

... Well.It is, like. Hoenn.The Hoenn region has a lot of water. This IS a remake and the original Hoenn had a lot of water.So I don't see why Game Freak would change that.

But the problem is that the water routes were extremely repetitive and boring when you consider in the last third of the game you were basically only fighting Water type trainers, and even then the only pokemon you would ever encounter were Wailmer and Tentacool up until Victory Road.Yes you could say that "it was in the originals so why shouldn't they change it", but the issue is that it was a legitimate problem in the first place. Sure you can use Repels and whatnot, but when you literally have to avoid a core mechanic of the games that's just bad game design. It's the same issue with having 8 HMs, like come on guys. There's a reason why remakes allow you to make artistic decisions for the better.

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But the problem is that the water routes were extremely repetitive and boring when you consider in the last third of the game you were basically only fighting Water type trainers, and even then the only pokemon you would ever encounter were Wailmer and Tentacool up until Victory Road.Yes you could say that "it was in the originals so why shouldn't they change it", but the issue is that it was a legitimate problem in the first place. Sure you can use Repels and whatnot, but when you literally have to avoid a core mechanic of the games that's just bad game design. It's the same issue with having 8 HMs, like come on guys. There's a reason why remakes allow you to make artistic decisions for the better.

There were far better things to work on rather than work on a non-issue.

There were far better things to work on rather than work on a non-issue.

Lack of variety and having to purposefully avoid a core mechanic for a major section of the game is a non-issue?

Too many hms? Lol Too much water? Well its hoenn of.course. I think the game should've gotten at least a 8, but thats my opinion :/

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Lack of variety and having to purposefully avoid a core mechanic for a major section of the game is a non-issue?

Considering the entirety of the internet is making a joke out of IGN's review: Too much water is a complete non-issue.

Lack of variety and having to purposefully avoid a core mechanic for a major section of the game is a non-issue?

the fact that most people dont mind that makes it a non-issue.

 

heck i never noticed that till recently and that doesnt change much

Guyz I uncovered the secret, IGN is run by team Magma!!!

 

Quick we have to defeat them before it's too late and they remove water from the entire pokemon world!!!!!!

the fact that most people dont mind that makes it a non-issue.

 

heck i never noticed that till recently and that doesnt change much

Heck, I don't even think the game would feel right without the water. The water is part of what makes the region so memorable to me. :/ I never minded surfing around.

So it's agreed that this was a flaw in the original, but IGN is stupid for still thinking it's a problem in the remake? Generally when you remake something you try to address problems, otherwise what's the point? Use a little ingenuity, but a spin on it, or at least streamline it

it's hardly IGN's fault for having an negative opinion of something that was already established to be a problem in the original game

saying it 'makes sense' doesn't really excuse it either, things making sense is a poor replacement for a good game. Kinda silly how Pokemon making sense is brought up to defend its flaws, but at the same time people will point out how Pokemon makes no sense if the criticism is about something being unrealistic

Oh, how dare they give Pokemon OR/AS a 7.8 just because of the fact that there's "too much water" in what is supposedly a remake of a game that ALREADY had a lot of water (sarcasm). This review is so bad >_> (sarcasm). Seriously, the Hoenn region is pretty much an island SURROUNDED by water. So of course it's going to have water in it.. I don't get what all the fuss is about just because they game the games a 7.8

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I guess Team Aqua got a jump start in ruling the word with floods.  :P  lol

My issue is that taking water away takes away some of the characteristics... if there was a region that had half of it as a forest and half a desert, we'd probably see too many bug, grass, and ground types. I certainly don't expect to see a Ponyta in the water, or a Swimmer to have captured a Torterra.

You know how the saying goes "you can't spell ignorant without ign?" Guess what? Repel exist. Want to decrease the massive water type Pokemon encounters? Repel exist. Problem solved.Seriously guys? You forgot about repels? Smh.

 

EDIT: Want more? Back in RSE you had to go back in forth to use repels. In XY and ORAS, you can keep using repels without having to go to your bag. No change from RSE to ORAS, as if! 

 

Can't wait for IGN to say "Too many Zubats!" IGN is a joke and always will be imo.

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You have to understand this is a freelancer. IGN did not pay them for doing this review.

Oh, how dare they give Pokemon OR/AS a 7.8 just because of the fact that there's "too much water" in what is supposedly a remake of a game that ALREADY had a lot of water (sarcasm). This review is so bad >_> (sarcasm). Seriously, the Hoenn region is pretty much an island SURROUNDED by water. So of course it's going to have water in it.. I don't get what all the fuss is about just because they game the games a 7.8

because the water negatively impacts the game in their opinion? It's like Mario Sunshine has awful swimming mechanics, if they had more swimming levels, defending it because it's a tropical island is dumb. If you're going to have something, you make it WORK.

 

You know how the saying goes "you can't spell ignorant without ign?" Guess what? Repel exist. Want to decrease the massive water type Pokemon encounters? Repel exist. Problem solved.Seriously guys? You forgot about repels? Smh.

 

EDIT: Want more? Back in RSE you had to go back in forth to use repels. In XY and ORAS, you can keep using repels without having to go to your bag. No change from RSE to ORAS, as if! 

 

Can't wait for IGN to say "Too many Zubats!" IGN is a joke and always will be imo.

I don't even play Pokemon and I call tell how much of a non-solution this is. Using repels only works if you already have your Pokemon at a decent level, and if they dominate the type of Pokemon you'll encounter then that means you're limited in what types of Pokemon you can have on your team, since being effectively probably means having a team mostly effective against water types, or at least not vulnerable to water.

A game should be balanced towards being a good experience for the player, this sounds like a pretty valid complaint

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